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Forgiveness and Salvation (PART # 2) Conscience – Order & Initiative of Salvation

On The Conscience of Man

Faithing - active present tense - non-meritorious

Because we are helpless and creatures with a needs character even the smallest measure of faithing activity must come from God, “according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith.” (Romans 12:3 KJV). Man cannot take any credit for any faithing activity he enters into. All faithing response requirement seeds are placed within man by God Himself. Man is without excuse. Man has been given what God requires of him to be used to hear Him and obey Him.. God has given to every man the spiritual life functioning capacity to which the human conscience, intuition and the forefending system belongs.

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When the Gentiles, who have no knowledge of the Law,
act in accordance with it by the light of nature,
they show that they have a law in themselves,
for they demonstrate the effect of a law operating in their own hearts.
Their own consciences endorse the existence of such a law,
for there is something which condemns or commends their actions.
(Romans 2: 14-15 J B Phillips)

God uses the conscience of man to preach the Good News to them that He is. Within this truth bank which is God placed into every human being, there exists not only the true facts of His being but inherent within the law of love is also the ‘faithing seed’ if we can call it that. This God given ‘faithing seed’ is much more than a mere static knowing of truth for it also has within it the proper ‘response – ability’ that man must undertake in order to be able to respond to the call of God on each person’s life to the revealed truth.

Every person knows what the law of love requires – it requires a relational community. It requires that man act according to the God installed message which is ‘preached’ daily to each person. Be nicer, be kinder, be more generous, be forgiving, be honest and respond to God because you know HE IS. It is interesting that God reveals His truth to all mankind and not just a few elect. Every human being has a conscience and an intuition which directs Godward.  No person is totally deprived of the ability to hear and obey God.  God Himself is involved in preaching His Good News of complete forgiveness and this is what the conscience gets to hear by the work of the Holy Spirit Himself.

How, then, can they call on the one they have not believed in?
And how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard?
And how can they hear without someone preaching to them?
(Romans 10:14 NIV)

If there is no revelation of Truth by the Person of Truth Himself how could anyone ever be expected to act responsibly in a Godward manner? Well, there is this God installed faithing seed by which every human receives the ability to respond to the call of God on their life. And here is an interesting thing we need to take into consideration when it comes to participating and engaging in the activity of faithing.

Faithing is a Godward orientation,
it is not an inward orientation
nor a nature orientation.

Faithing is however the human’s God given response ability to all that which comes from God including His voice as spoken via the human conscience. The God installed faithing seed within a human conscience is always directed to recognize the call and the claim of our Maker and Creator. God’s claim on our life is universally recognizable from that which is given by God within our conscience – within which is embedded the “do unto others first as you would have them do unto you” law of love and the knowledge of truth and right. God’s presence and power is made recognizable by that which is given by God and visible within created nature outside of us. Because faithing activity requires an object towards whom we can express our gratitude for life and by which we can express our thankfulness for His faithful supply of sufficiency for all of our needs we are able to recognize the presence of THE HOLY ONE when He speaks to us. Adam and Eve both communicated with God in the Garden and both Abel and Cain heard the voice of God and were able to communicate with the voice that spoke to them and sought to direct them.

The Order of Salvation

In the Scriptures we read “Faith comes from hearing, and hearing comes from the Word of God.” (Romans 10:17) Let us always remember that The Living Word of God is a Person and never ink and paper or a manufactured piece of parchment or a silicon valley’s assembled product that uses digital characters of bits and bytes. The Living Word of God is the name given alone to Jesus as noted in Revelation:

“And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood:and his name is called The Word of God.”Revelation 19:13

As we can see, it is this Living Word of God who is the Person of Truth, Right and Love which needs to be preached. Now if we dare to look at that verse in Romans 10 verse 17 again we could say that The Word of God, who is Jesus, speaks even today into the hearts and consciences of man and when that Word of God is heard He and He alone genesis forth into action the faithing seed which is coupled with the knowledge of truth and the Living Word of Truth. Are you following this so far? It is not the book which needs to be preached but it is the Person of Jesus who is The Living Word of God who needs to be preached.
The calling agent of God is His Holy Spirit for it is He that convicts of sin’s presence even within a seared and dulled conscience. The Living Word of God which is preached to the unregenerate human being by way of the God embedded conscience actually genesis forth the ability of that human to respond to His Words and law of love. Yes, it is true that an unbeliever can thus pray to God prior to salvation. Neither I nor you can activate the faithing seed by something so many refer to in error as being man’s ‘free will’. The concept of ‘free will’ is a fallacy which has been set forth as being true fact by Arminian doctrine. All human will is influenced will and as such can never be determined to be free of influence from an outside or inner spiritual source. So give it a rest, free will and moral freedom of choice is something not supported by the Spirit inspired Scriptures we have been given.

On When An Unbeliever Receives Forgiveness

So is it really true that the unbeliever must first believe in order to hear the voice of God and thereafter receive forgiveness? Many make the claim that the unbeliever can’t be forgiven until he believes first and if that were true can you recognize the dilemma in this? In this unsolvable quandary we come to recognize the foolishness of saying that the unbeliever must first believe in order to receive forgiveness. If we must first believe in order to be recipients of God’s forgiveness and we can’t believe until we are forgiven, we must forever remain lost.

Let me inject some Scripture at this point and hopefully we can recognize the truth. In the following verses I use the Expanded Bible Version.

8 When the Helper comes,
he will ·prove to the people of the world the truth about sin
[convict/expose/convince the world about sin],
about ·being right with God [righteousness],
and about judgment [the meaning of this sentence is uncertain, as are the explanatory phrases in vv. 9–11].
9 ·He will prove to them that sin is not believing in me
[concerning sin, because they do not believe in me].
10 ·He will prove to them that being right with God
comes from my going to the Father and not being seen anymore
[concerning righteousness, because I go to the Father and you will no longer see me;  probably means the Spirit will convict the world of its empty righteousness because Jesus is no longer present to model true righteousness].
11 ·And the Helper will prove to them that judgment happened when the ruler of this world was judged [concerning judgment, because the ruler of this world has been judged;  probably means the Spirit will convict the world that its judgments are false because Satan—the one they follow—has been condemned by Christ’s victory on the cross].
(John 16:8-11 EXB)

Did you pick up on that “He will prove to them that sin is not believing in me.”

In God’s eyes all sins have been dealt with on the cross because all sins of mankind stem from the one sin of “not believing in me” as Jesus so clearly sets forth. Therefore, that one unforgivable “SIN” is to remain in a state of “not believing in me”. Well, let us be very careful to identify at this point that there is no such thing a Universalism described within the Scriptures and for that reason we come to understand also that there then remains only one sin which can never be forgiven. There is only one unforgivable sin and that is “not believing in me” and that means in Christ and His finished work. All other activity which stems from “not believing in me” are the activities which are called sins and it is all of these sins which have been paid for and completely dealt with.  Thus all of mankind has been forgiven when Jesus said “It is finished.” as He hung on the cross.

With forgiveness having been accomplished in Christ on the cross the only sin still remaining which man needs to be convicted of is the sin of not actively believing – faithing in Christ. In the (AKJV) we read “because they believe not on me” or as stated above “He will prove to them that sin is not believing in me”. This “not believing in me” is not talking about a factual faith as a noun belief system but it is referring to the active present tense verb activity of faithing which involves the Godward listening and obeying ability. It does not state that the Holy Spirit convicts the ‘world’- the unbelievers, of all the many sins and sinning activities that have already been forgiven but we are told by Jesus Himself that the Holy Spirit must come to convict the world of the one sin (which is not forgiven on the cross) and that sin is “to not believe in me” or said in another way – the unforgivable sin is to not be faithing into God.

Jesus identifies that it is His work – the work of God and His Holy Spirit and that He is the initiator who will identify Himself as being the truth within each person and that He will genesis within man the faith (not the static doctrine noun) but the action verb of faithing by which the Holy Spirit will enable an unbeliever to embrace and accept as truth the relational participation with Him who is the essence of truth, love, right and faithfulness.The initiator of Sa;vation

On Faithing,

a Non-Meritorious Activity

Faithing starts off as a small mustard seed, a small seed indeed and that small faithing seed has the God given ability to mature and grow. Faithing is a non-meritorious activity and it is God’s responsibility to nurture it into maturity. God is the one who desires that we pay attention to Him and listen to all that which He wants us to understand. As He reveals Himself to us, not by merely reading about Him in a book, but by active relational interactive obedience, we will always experience the maturing of our faithing activity. This may involve and it usually does involve the development of a sound static faith doctrine as well. The noun ‘faith’ now refers to the sound doctrine not as taught by Martin Luther, John Calvin, Jacobus Arminius, any other reformer or preacher or by a professor but as taught by the present tense I AM;-by the Holy Spirit Himself.

The Gift of Faith

It is God’s responsibility to make revelations of Himself to each person.

Revelations from God have never ceased they are new each day by way of granting spiritual insight and understanding. God does not need a compiled book to make a revelation come to life in your life. All God given revelations come from the Holy Spirit of Truth Himself as we listen to Him and obey what we already have received from Him. The knowledge of what is right and true and in love comes from the embedded truth bank within our conscience. Even when a person’s conscience has been seared, dulled and suppressed God still uses our intuition or as some would say ‘intuitive instincts’ at directing even an unbeliever to do what is kinder, better, more patient and more loving.
We dare not preach as the Good News that which says, “Believe and your sins will be forgiven” but we must preach the Good News that Christ has already died for the remission of all sins and that when anyone believes in this Jesus, the Person of Truth and Love that they shall then be saved from their sins, meaning that salvation is the freedom from enslavement to our many sins of self-interest habit. Are you getting this? When Jesus – The Living Word of God is preached we must preach that He died for all sins of all mankind and rose again and ascended into Heaven. We must never preach that Jesus died only for a few elect and that these elect will have their sins forgiven. To you Calvinists, who would disagree with me here, please pay attention to the words of Peter. Have we noticed that at Pentecost Peter identified the need for salvation not the need for forgiveness when he spoke these words in Acts.

“and it shall come to pass,
that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord
shall be saved”. (Acts 2:21)

What did the multitude ask on the day of Pentecost? Note- they did not ask “What must we do to receive forgiveness?” Why did they not ask that question? Why did this question of forgiveness not arise? Because God had already revealed to them through Peter what Jesus Christ finished on the cross to facilitate full forgiveness once and for all sinners and unbelievers. They asked, “What must we do?” The jailer in Acts 16:30 asked “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?”  He never asked about forgiveness for that was the message of the Good News.

When God reveals that He has already forgiven you your sins by Christ’s death on the cross there then arises the obvious question, “What must I do to be saved? If we preach the truth that Jesus completed the work of forgiveness then forgiveness does not become the issue but salvation does come to mind. Now salvation comes through believing – the activity of the verb ‘faithing’ – not the noun ‘faith’ which refers to the knowledge of static doctrinal truth. Faithing is rather the active present tense relational thankfulness expression and grateful acceptance and praise worthy worship of this static truth fact as made possible in Jesus alone.

Please meditate this over and over again in your solitude with God until the Holy Spirit reveals the fullness of His truth and it all sinks in. How could a just God take it upon Himself to reveal the truth that Jesus actually did die on the cross for the forgiveness of ALL sins – except for THE SIN of not believing in Christ, UNLESS He had in fact already made that forgiveness a present tense reality for the unbelieving sinner? If forgiveness was not made for the unbelieving sinner then that would still be a just God to do as He determines. But just how could God offer salvation from continuous present tense sinning actions to an unbelieving ‘pre-elected Calvinist’ for example, if that person’s sins, which occur as a result of disobedient unbelief were not already forgiven? If all sins were not forgiven while we were yet living as sinners then even an ‘pre-elected and predestined Calvinist’ could never come to experience present tense salvation.  So we come to understand that even God, who is perfect, holy and righteous, can’t save someone whom He has not already forgiven. How is it even possible for God to forgive an ‘pre-elected and predestined Calvinist’ and not someone else as well?  Are not all “unbelieving” while they were yet a sinner?

if we could come to understand that the sinner’s sinning actions of disobedience are all because of their “unbelieving” or not present tense faithing-, then one could come to eventually understand that “active believing” or as I call it, active present tense faithing would be required in order to stop all further sinning actions of disobedience and unrighteousness. When a person lives by this active faithing, they become SAINTS and thus will be enabled by Christ in them to “NOT SIN”.

Let me get this right, – when I read this verse,
“But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.”
(Romans 5:8 AKJV),

I personally get the understanding that the integral component of a sinner’s salvation is that the sinner had received forgiveness of his sins prior to exercising even a modest modicum of faithing activity. Please let that truth sink in. God has already forgiven every vile sinner and rebellious unbeliever and it is for that reason that anyone can eventually become an active present tense believer and enter into the salvation of our Lord.

And when a person refuses to enter into a God governed active faithing relationship with The Person of Jesus even after His accomplished work of forgiveness on the cross, then those individuals remain in judgment and are already judged.

“He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed
in the name of the only begotten Son of God.”
(John 3:!8 AKJV)

This verse does not talk about forgiveness because forgiveness has nothing to do with being condemned.  The one sin that condemns is not our activity but rather the not actively believing – the not active faithing into the governance of Jesus in our life.

When full forgiveness has been made but you refuse to become an active present tense believer – by actively faithing into the love governance of God, you remain a judged ‘unbeliever’ and will be judged, condemned and sentenced to life everlasting outside of God’s presence for the sin of “not believing in me”-the Christ; – You will remain judged and condemned not for your activities of sinning but for the sin of not actively faithing from God the governing salvation activity He wants to bring to a born again spirit.  It is thus not your activity which separates you from God in the ever after but it is your not actively faithing – believing in Jesus which keeps you from God and His governance in the hereafter.

Okay, here is the deal – Make up Your Mind! You Can’t have it any other way.  Make up your mind.as to what you want to actively believe but I for one, will actively believe in the complete truth and never believe that we can have it both ways on this question of forgiveness finality. Either there is a finality of forgiveness so that the unbelieving sinner can be saved by God’s ongoing work of salvation. OR – God rules in Heaven and there is no forgiveness until we of our own accord come to Jesus at the cross by self-effort faith.

Can you believe that God does indeed work out His love and that His love activity is the full forgiveness for every unbelieving sinner while they were yet sinners? The fact that Scripture teaches us that God loved us while we were yet actively not believing in Him – while we were all Cains and Esaus, is proof that God has indeed forgiven us while we were yet unbelieving disobedient sinners even before we became believers in Him.  OR – Do you hold on to the notion that God steadfastly refuses to forgive the unbelieving sinner until they make the first move and muster up enough faith that would qualify them to receive forgiveness and thereafter enter into His salvation? It is not possible to have it both ways.  Either God has forgiven all who were yet sinners in order that He may save those who actively believe in Jesus OR God refuses to forgive every human being until someone who is yet in unbelief turns from such sin of His own ability. So would such doctrine then posit that those who come to God of their own “free will” are actually more righteous than God? Is it possible for man to be so righteous that he would be able to take the first step towards being reconciled by God and to God? God forbid such heresy from being taught that we are the initiators of our forgiveness and our salvation by exercising “human free will”.

Is it possible for man to be so delusional that he would consider himself more right than God? Yes it is possible for man to believe this lie for many an unbeliever does consider themselves more righteous than God. The one who is the essence of Truth, Love and Right however will always provide the solution Himself for the problem of others. If I have to believe in Christ in order to receive forgiveness then I become the righteous initiator who seeks to reconcile God to myself. But if God initiates the requirements for reconciliation –both the penalty and the forgiveness, FOR ALL MANKIND, then God is the righteous initiator of reconciliation.

Remember that a relationship reconciliation between victim and victimizer requires a number of components. Let us examine these more closely.TULIP or Free Will?

This finishes Part 2.

Please continue your study on Part 3 by clicking through here


Reconciliation – How Does It Work?

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